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Presentation of Web 2.0 for Educators interested in language learning and emerging technologies
Presentation of Web 2.0 for Educators interested in language learning and emerging technologies
thank you for your interesting presentation. I am a teacher. I really look forward to educate myself on these topics you mentioned
, which were never more than postulations, much like Aristotle’s postulation on gravity. Today an array of cognitive sciences, especially those linked to neuroscience, have shown much more promise in delivering scientific answers to the how’s of language acquisition, not to mention a general language teaching methodology. Anyway, prawn, please direct your attention to modern research, forget Rousseau, Descartes, Locke, and the like. Read something by Jeff Hawkins, or any other brain scientist.
I really do not understand why Stanley even bothered to reply, but since he did I felt as I should contribute in some way to the discussion. The use of internet based tools do not themselves constitute a pedagogical methodology. They are used as an extension to what is carried out in the classroom itself. In any case it seems as though prawn wishes to maintain, likely in his case, or revert modern ELT to saussurian standards. This is strange since we should shun from old pedagogical philosophies
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yes, i realise that most ppl ‘actively involved’ in eng lang ‘teaching’ r blowhards who hv no inclination to put in the effort 2 become a better teacher, so yes u r prbbly quite right, i’d have 0 to offer you. if stdnts r taught properly, then they can do their own blogs if they so desire (wht a waste of time anyway). telling s.b. to do a blog doesn’t teach them one jot abt a lang, and just bcz u speak english doesnt mean u objectively know anything abt it. good luck with that anyway.
You are right - you have no duty or obligation at all to share your knowledge and experience. I hardly think your attitude is one of an educator interested in helping other people learn and am now convinced from your that you have little offer those of us who are actually actively involved in education.
i’m not upset. as far as arrogance goes it is ur arrogance to claim that this nonsense assists actual learning without providing one shred of data to support your ridiculuous thesis. i have plenty to show that u r wrong and i am right. i am under no obligation to show u this. if u r beating ur head against a wall, i feel it my duty to inform u of ur idiocy, but it does not follow that i am obliged to give u sth better to do. goodbye.
I agree to blindly follow any methodology is not the right way to work in any field. This comment makes me think you’re misjudging what I and others do and our reasons for using this technology with learners. I’m actually still intrigued by your anger and arrogance, though, and would love to find out why you’re so sure of yourself and so upset that teachers choose to use this technology with their learners.
Interesting. I actually stand by what I’ve said in the video and the comments here from experience with students and from the experience of other teachers that do the same. I still don’t understand why you think it’s so wrong to encourage students to communicate with others from different parts of the world using this technology. Or would you rather the students just talk to themselves in a classroom?
i’ll tell you what the easiest thing in the world is. it’s to just blindly follow all the drivel presented as ‘methodology’ in the ‘field’ of esl and compensate for any lack of progress by the comforting knowledge that u’r working ‘hard’. imagine if u wanted to learn another language and ur teacher told u this could be done by doing blogs/role plays/ cloze test/ being ‘motivated’/ trying to ‘communicate’/ the teacher sticking things on the wall etcx1000. u’d find this absolutely preposterous.
it’s not a negative comment mate. it’s a positive comment and i am also positive that your defensiveness lends weight to my hypothesis that you aren’t sure that this sort of stuff is effective even though you work so ‘hard’ on it. lugging sacks of dung up deadend streets is also ‘hard work’ but whether or not it actually achieves anything is another matter entirely.
Prawn, as a practising English language teacher who does believe he works hard to help learners construct and construe meaning I’m a little bewildered at your comments. I also think the easiest thing in the world is to write a quick negative comment about somebody’s efforts and would love to hear / read something more constructive about your own methodology (if it exists that is)…
more ‘communication’ and ‘motivation’ drivel from the krashen/ ellis etc crew and their bewildered ilk. if you actually taught them how to construct and construe meaning in english they could choose to write their own blogs without needing you to ‘let’ them. you can cover your classroom walls a foot thick in any nonsense you choose, but it will never compensate for what you are not doing: teaching.
Interesting comment, prawn - I’d love to know why you don’t think letting students communicate to other students through blogs isn’t a good way to motivate them. Perhaps you could also let everyone know the best way to teach language as you obviously think you know how to do so.
“blogging appeals to language teachers because it can open up classroom walls”. i got this far and was violently ill. this is all utter drivel and just another way for pseudo-educators to divert attention away from the glaring fact that they simply are utterly bewildered about how to teach language.
I agree with you Steve, that Web 2.0 should involve learners in content production and that tools such as blogs and wikis enable this to easily be put into practice. I don’t agree that my video tries to say that Web 2.0 is a tool for “teachers to control students” - where did you get that idea from?
Language learning in Web 2.0 should enable learners and tutors (senior learners who are helpers)to be equal as producers and consumers of language content and services.
This video implies that Web 2.0 is another tool or “activity” for teachers to control students.
Classrooms have not been good places to learn languages. Web 2.0 is a chance to eliminate classrooms and make an interactive Web 2.0 world the preferred language learning space for learners and tutors. That is what I hope to achieve.
I’ll take part in SALT Specials in Aracaju/Brasil and I’m looking forward to seeing your presentation!
Thanks for your video sharing. I will post your video on my website to let people know how to use web 2.0 in language teaching.
Graham,
Thanks for your video. I will post your viedo on my website to introduce how to use web 2.0 in language learning.
Very exciting things for the future…
Thank you so much, Graham, for making this video. It is very helpful, and I have linked to it in my CALL Online course, where the teacher trainees will be asked to explore several Web 2.0 tools and build their own. Nice work!
Christine Bauer-Ramazani
Thanks for the presentation. I will be doing a presentation (live one) of my own on Web 2.0 and language learning and will cite this video as a source. I may try to get in touch with you later as well.
Please go ahead, Carlos - I’m happy for anyone to use this with other teachers, post on their blog, etc - I’m glad you liked it